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UPDATE: New information has been discovered which has been submitted to Bromley Planning Department, as it appears that additional objections cannot now be added online. Bromley Council has confirmed that the site is green belt land and this has not changed, despite farm buildings being erected there. On the basis of the following alone, the application should be rejected:
· Outdoor sport or recreation facilities · The proportionate extension or alteration of a current structure · The replacement of a current building for the same use · Providing much-needed affordable housing None of the above points relate to the application.
11 March 2024
Chelsfield Hall Farm (Green Street Green) Consultation meeting about the proposal to build 6 residential houses on the footprint of existing farm buildings took place on Monday 11 March at The Greenwood Centre. Neal Thompson (Robinson Escott) noted and answered a number of questions - some responses provided in advance are available here. 24 local residents attended the meeting and raised concerns, mainly about impact on the green belt, surface water drainage, traffic congestion and wildlife. Mr Thompson stressed that planning policy would deem inappropriate any further development onto the green belt. The plans would reduce the current hardstanding and improve drainage with soakaways. A significant area would be returned to green, as gardens. The height of the buildings (mainly single storey) will be below that of the current large barn. The buildings would be of farm/barn-type, to fit in with the character of the Grade II listed farmhouse, which would be renovated to provide a habitable dwelling, retaining its exterior. Extensive environmental surveys had been carried out, identifying a badger sett 70m from the development (nothing can be built within 30m). There are signs of badgers foraging near the site but the application includes mitigating proposals for this, to ensure the badgers are protected. Regarding traffic congestion at the A21 roundabout end of the High Street, Mr Thompson assured the audience that highways surveys had been done by experts and the outcome was that there would not be a significant change from current vehicular movements by contractors visiting the farm and the stables. However there were some queries about what would happen about shelter for the horses which currently graze in the adjacent field, if the stables are removed. Unfortunately affordable housing requirements do not apply to developments of fewer than ten properties. The planning application is here - listed building consent here. Margot Rohan (Trustee and Secretary) Bob Mills Bob moved to Green Street Green with his wife Meriel in 2000 after a career in the newspaper industry. He became Vice-Chairman of the Trustees of the Green Street Green Association and Membership Secretary of The Village Society Committee for a decade, until he retired in 2017. He and Meriel were instrumental in building the membership from 40 in 2007 to its peak of 654 in 2011. They set up a network of Road Contacts, who collected subscriptions, delivered newsletters and ensured that residents' concerns were raised at Village Society meetings, with local councillors and relevant authorities. They were also responsible for the huge amount of development to Glentrammon Rec something of which they were really proud. Bob's loves in life were his wife and golf, playing at top courses all over the world. Sadly he lost Meriel in 2020 but, like the old soldier he was, he carried on with aplomb. At the age of 88 life was catching up with him. He had to give up his golf and car a year ago, due to very painful shoulder problems. After a short spell in hospital, Bob passed away gently at 9:35am on Thursday 22 February. He leaves behind a son, 4 grandchildren, 3 great grandchildren and his beloved dog Twizzle. He will be sadly missed by all. His funeral is on 9th April at the Bluebell Cemetery, Halstead 12:30 pm. If you would like to attend, please let Steven Mills know: [email protected]. You are never too old to learn - nor too young! If you or someone you know would like a friendly helper to show you how to use your device (mobile, tablet, laptop), you will be able to bring it along and, hopefully, we will be able to teach you what you need to know. One of the Trustees, Margot Rohan, will be available to answer all your questions (to the best of her ability). Margot trained as a digital tutor and provided help to local residents at free drop-in sessions in Croydon Council. She has also given one-to-one classes for local Orpington residents of ages ranging from 30 to 80, in their own homes. Having used computers on a daily basis since the 1980s, she has a wealth of experience with Microsoft Office applications, particularly Word, Excel, Powerpoint and Access. We have four laptops with Windows 10 for attendees to use - three kindly donated by U3A. These drop-in sessions are once a month on Sundays 3-5pm - check the Greenwood Centre page. Contact [email protected] for further information. Sessions will be re-instated if there are people still wanting some help with their mobiles, tablets and laptops. Many members will remember Barrie Newman who died on Wednesday 15 November, aged 91 years. He was a stalwart supporter of the Green Street Green Association, from the 1970s until he became ill in his final years. He carried out numerous decorating and maintenance work on the Greenwood Centre. He was the Road Safety rep on the Village Society Committee and campaigned for traffic lights to be installed at the bottom of Glentrammon Road. However, to his disappointment, Bromley Council contended that they would be too expensive and installed the contraversial mini-roundabout instead. He was a member of Bromley Camera Club and in 1985, he and Tony Collins founded the Greenwood Camera Club. Sadly, due to modern technology and lack of new members, it closed at the end of 2020, after 35 years. Barrie was also instrumental in organising the installation of the clock on the external wall of the Greenwood Centre, to celebrate the Millenium in 2000, which was unveiled by Cllr Chris Maines on 26 July 2000. Following a fall at his home in the autumn of 2023, Barrie had three spells in hospital. His wife, Brenda, attested to the good, kind and caring staff at the Princess Royal University Hospital and district nurses, who looked after him until his death. Barrie had a fine bass voice and sang with The Kentones, a men’s barbershop group, for 27 years. The current group members attended and sang two songs at his funeral on 20 December. There was standing room only at his funeral, which was attended by many of the friends he and Brenda made over their more than 60 years together. Several old friends and family members had wonderful reminiscences and some humorous stories to share. Barrie will be remembered with affection for many years to come. The Grove Singers of London performed carols old and new to a very receptive and appreciative audience on 10 December. After the concert, the Raffle Draw took place but the audience dissipated, even those who had brought raffle tickets, so there was only a handful of spectators when the winning tickets were drawn! However all the prizes were collected or delivered by 11 December. The list of prizes and winners is below. One of the Greenwood Centre's newer regular hirer's, the Sacred Sanctuary Apostolic Church, held a book launch for D S Brooks' Christian poetry book on Sunday 21 October. Her book is available from Amazon: "Rhyme Your Way Through is an uplifting and inspiring collection of poetry. God has blessed Deborah with the talents and gifts to write these poems to encourage her readers on their walk with Christ and brighten their day. After a few decades, Deborah finally plucked up the courage to share her collection of spoken word internationally." The church holds services every Sunday at the Greenwood Cenre, from 11:30am - all are welcome. Margot Rohan - Trustee and Secretary Green Street Green Association LBB has finally reclaimed their verge and reinstated the bollards which were removed by the owner of Warrior House.
After two years of constant nudging by the Association and local residents, the Council has made good their promise to reclaim the verge. It is with great regret that the Board of Trustees of the ICARE Day Centre Trust announced recently that the charity’s financial situation does not allow it to continue and that our Day Centre will have to close. This has been the most difficult and saddest of decisions to have to take, but it is simply not possible to carry on. For 38 years ICARE has served people in Bromley and the surrounding area living with the effects of a stroke. Our Day Centre in Green Street Green has offered rehabilitation, friendship and support for people who have had a stroke, and respite for their families and carers. Many have been helped over those years and the fact that present circumstances mean we cannot continue is a great disappointment and loss. Like many charities, we have been a victim of the pandemic, after which our client numbers were significantly down, as was our income. Despite considerable efforts, but in the face of the cost-of-living increases that we have all seen, we have been unable to build up the number of clients again. We have had support from the local community throughout our existence, and especially in recent months in response to our Save ICARE appeal. However, it became clear that even this would not secure a long term future for ICARE; we cannot cover our costs and therefore have no choice but to close the Centre and wind up the charity in an orderly manner. We are so very grateful to all those who have supported us over many years. On behalf of our clients as well as ICARE, we thank you all wholeheartedly. We have been able to contact some of the donors who responded to the appeal regarding their donations. If we have not yet been in touch with you, please contact us at the Centre by the end of October. (01689 862883; [email protected]) Thank you. ICARE Centre, Green Street Green Tfl is proposing changes to bus routes R1, R2, R3, R6 and B14
They would like to hear your views on proposed changes to bus routes R1, R2, R3, R6 and B14 in Orpington. The changes aim to provide some improved bus connections. Changes to the R1, R3 and B14 would mean the R2 and R6 would no longer run. Visit the website for more information, to view maps and to have your say. Consultation closes on Wednesday 1 November. Louise Cheeseman Director of Buses |
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